For a second I thought you were talking about my friend Skye - weird moment.
Anyway. I watched “I Blame Myself.” I think the video is problematic, and its more complicated than you are making it out to be. On the other hand I really don’t care about Ferreira. I’ve never really listened to her music nor will I probably ever. I assume you are also sending viennesetrainspotter messages. I don’t particularly want to have this conversation, and if you are sending viennesetrainspotter anons I am sure she doesn’t either.
But thank you for chimming in, I appreciate that you messaged me. Have a nice day.
yeah bree you’re on-point. p much it’s not just that sky “sits in an old car and does a dance with” 4 or 5 black guys who are her friends. first of all, that is not what the video is about. you have to seriously not be paying attention to it to get that out of it. even sky herself asserts that it has to do with her arrest; thus, on the most basic level the person for whom it was made, as in sky (idk how much she had to do with its creation), would have to argue that that assessment is wrong or else risk being accused of a hypocritical turnaround within a period of less than 48 hours. the video has a plot and that plot is that she is the leader of a circle of drug dealers who may or may not form a gang. the problematic factor is that all of these drug dealers are black men. that is problematic because it plays into racist stereotypes about black men (and black folks in general) as aggressive criminals.
second of all, they’re not her “friends”; she has no relationship with these men except apparently that they have some level of respect for her, which would imply that she has positioned herself as their superior.
sky may or may not be racist…i don’t know and unless you are sky or perhaps a v specific type of person v close to her, you probably can’t know either. even taking into account that she is a poc, she could still be racist; she is not black and being a poc does not exempt a person from being racist against other races (i have to clarify here that obviously reverse racism is not a thing; systemically a poc does not have the ability to be racist towards white people), especially when we’re talking about anti-blackness, which is fucking rampant. but the video for her song is at the very least problematic, if not racist (i would argue that it is racist though). that means that she endorsed and continues to stand by a racist thing.
the thought crossed my mind for like .5 seconds that these asks could be coming from sky herself because i don’t really know that she has a particularly rabid fanbase (even if she does have a large fanbase; if she does have a rabid fanbase good for her) and tumblr “would” have a lot to say about this, so i imagine she’d want to read up on what folks are saying. or maybe not. i’m pretty sure now that these asks are from a concerned fan, though, which is more realistic and also chill—i understand your love and affection and i have felt similarly defensive of, say, jessi darlin even though she wore a headdress constantly in those darlins’ early years, which is a racist/culturally appropriative and inappropriate thing to do (not that i’ve even seen anyone call her out for that but i was and am aware of it). i still love and respect those darlins and they are one of my favorite bands and i’m proud of them and i love to have conversations about them. pretty much everyone is at least a bit problematic if you can know them well enough; it is especially easy to find/recognize/engage with problematic things done by famous folks who aren’t particularly engaged with the politics behind said problematic things. but even in academia, most of or a lot of us are problematic in some way—even bell hooks. and it doesn’t mean we should defend the problematic things these folks we love do just because we love them. we should acknowledge these factors as part of our complicated relationship to the art and media we like to consume.
tbh i’m probably going to take another look at sky’s album and i’m probably going to be into it, especially since “i blame myself” has been stuck in my head all day (it’s a fucking good song—brie and i sometimes like the same pop (haim) and sometimes not (lorde) lole we’re friends). but i know now that politically or maybe on some ethical level sky and i are not aligned; there is a disconnect (maybe because of my stuffy academic hubris but maybe also because i try to be more aware of ways to be racist or problematic (i fail sometimes)) and that is something i want to know. i expected better of her and i was disappointed and maybe she will undisappoint me in the future. she doesn’t owe me anything, but i think she owns her fans some level of sincerity, and “some level of sincerity” is not present in that video.
EDIT: i accidentally referred to bree as a cheese so i changed it so no one gets confused that i am actually talking about a human.
she can cast black guys. it’s not the black guys who are problematic.
the actual premise of the video is problematic. not the part where this video and song are both a response to being arrested for possession, but the part where she accepts and then uses the stereotype of black men as hard, aggressive criminals in order to boost her own reputation.
upon my first glance at her motivation behind the song and video, i thought it was cool that she was making a badass response to her arrest.
the text of the video, though, says, ”omg black guys are scary and hard and i’m hanging out with them in my video and i’m the leader (of this particular group of hardened black men who are criminals in a drug ring/gang) that grants me legitimacy i’m hardcore.”
i should also note that, had the cast of the video been all white, it still would have been kind of problematic imo—just on a much less profound level. i think that “ghetto tourism” is actually a better term than what i used earlier, “poverty tourism,” because of the racial implications of the term and this particular video—here, sky is presumably running in circles in which she would not otherwise run, in areas she would not otherwise frequent because they are “unsafe” and “poor” and “run-down”. or at least, that’s what i read in the video.
tl;dr the biggest problem with the video is that it’s playing into tropes/stereotypes of black men while also i guess trying to benefit from them when they’re well-known, very obvious racist stereotypes. she can cast black men but she should do it not just so that she can use a stereotype of their reputation to boost her own, which is what this video ultimately is.
i should also add that i’m not some rando who just like saw the video or heard the buzz and was like, “fuck this bitch.” the fun story is that i started listening to sky in probably 2009 or 2010 before she had released any eps, when she was still doing little demos on myspace. some music blog pointed me in her direction, back when i had my own music blog, and i dug on her. i’m glad she’s still making music and i’m glad she’s having success. her music is chill. i think she should look more critically at the implications behind her video, though. she may not be racist—that may not have been her intent—but the video certainly comes off as racist and is, i would venture, inherently racist.
lol omg holy wow wow wow
yeah she is. or at least the video is. and i don’t care if she is a poc. that doesn’t exempt her from racism. neither does her intent. maybe…just a suggestion here…maybe you should take a sec to read the criticisms that are being leveled at the video or even at miley cyrus’ video or lily allen’s video (similar criticisms, with miley’s and lily’s videos being problematic on the extra-rich level of misogyny towards Black women) or sth.
in fact, what shocks me most is that she must have at least heard of people calling out miley cyrus for her video (they are friends; they at least tour[ed?] together) and she still like decided to go through with this. like. total lack of awareness there. there are no twerking women in this video, okay, so she is not using Black women’s bodies as props, but the video reeks of like poverty tourism and “hanging out with Black ppl makes me cool” as in using Black people as props and i’m not into that smell.
i’m not here to explicate why her video is racist though. surely the internet will do that in the days to come.
EDIT: i suspect that this is someone who was rolling through the sky ferreira tag or sth and NOT one of my followers. something about this ask suggests that. w/e.
done w/ sky ferreira; she is fucking ignorant
Fuck outta here
See. See. This that shit
i ain’t even surprised tho
It’s so brave to play a sassy housewife over an enslaved woman replicating her physical mental and emotional trauma. Jennifer Lawrence seems just like the sloppy rude bitch she played in the movie that ain’t acting lol
this is such bullshit holy fuck
white mediocrity strikes again
is this real? who wrote this, did they expect people to take them seriously? how did they not piss their pants while writing this
PLEASE REBLOG, I WOULD LIKE A DISCUSSION
I think the sapiiosexual orientation is necessarily ableist. It refers to attraction to intelligence. Can we discuss this?
I think if it isn’t ableist…
I feel like saying sapiosexuality is ableist is like saying being attracted to men is misogynistic. Being not attracted to people isn’t really discriminatory to them. Plus, isn’t it also bad to assume that intelligence is necessarily disconnected from mental illness?
I feel like saying its a fashion choice is really bad to say. It feels like when people say demisexuality is inherently slut shaming.
> I feel like saying sapiosexuality is ableist is like saying being attracted to men is misogynistic
This comparison is weird.
> Being not attracted to people isn’t really discriminatory to them
Oh really? So someone who felt sorry for me being in a chair and didn’t want sex with me isn’t discriminating aganst me?
This conversation intrigues me. Kylie is right.
I’m still learning about this, and I’m going to read up on it and find out a better, less oppressive way to define the ways in which I look at sexual attraction.
In the meantime, to sort out my thoughts on this, I’m going to write a thing here walking through why I once (ngl, earlier today) thought it was a “good” idea to identify as sapiosexual (which, I mean, I haven’t read anything more than this thread about it, but I’m thinking that identifying as sapiosexual means identifying as ableist but also usually racist and classist and that is not cool) and why it was always a bad idea. You can skip this and not read it if you want because it’s probably going to be me just typing a lot of disorganized things. Really, I’m only trying to organize my brain the way I would if I were having a conversation.Read more
Ron Weasley’s character is consciously written as somewhat racist. Not as racist as Malfoy, of course - he doesn’t scoff at mudbloods and halfbloods, and he doesn’t see himself as superior at all. Still, he unquestionably accepts the inferior position of house elves (they love serving), when he finds out that Lupin’s werewolf his reaction is not only scared but also disgusted (Don’t touch me!) and he is clearly very uncomfortable finding out that Hagrid is half-giant (giants are wild and savage).
And this is brilliant. Because it demonstrates that racism isn’t only present in clearly malicious and evil people, in the Malfoys and Blacks - it’s also there in warm, kind, funny people who just happened to learn some pretty toxic things growing up in a pretty toxic society. And they can unlearn them too, with some time and effort. Ron eventually accepts Hagrid’s parentage, lets Lupin bandage his leg and in the final battle, he worries about the safety of the house elves.
Some people are prejudiced because they are evil, and some people are prejudiced because they don’t know better yet. And those people can learn better, and become better people. And that’s an important lesson. The lesson taught about discrimination shouldn’t be “only evil people do it,” because then all readers will assume it doesn’t apply to them. Instead old JK teaches us “you too are probably doing it, and you should do stop ASAP.”
These are truly terrible, proceed with caution. http://www.buzzfeed.com/donnad/20-examples-that-spencers-gifts-hates-women
Oh yeah definitely.
I work there and I can even say that the company hates female-identified employees.
First of all, Guests come in on a near-daily basis with the goal of sexually harassing us. But the company has no standing policy regarding how to deal with them. Essentially if I’m working with my (male-identified) boss, I can go to the back room if a creepy Guest comes in, and wait there until my boss comes to fetch me with the news that the Guest has left. But if I’m working with my (female-identified) AM or if I’m the manager on duty, we have to have solidarity and stay on the floor together and “deal with it”. It’s fucking fucked up and I’m sick of it. I’m not allowed to yell at the creepy Guest or retaliate in any way, and I’m not allowed to kick him out of the store. This is because it would supposedly reflect poorly on the company. As if the fact that the company expects minimum-wage employees to tolerate sexual harassment from customers isn’t a bad enough reflection on the company.
As for the racist, sexist, cissexist, sizeist, and ableist merch we sell…I honestly do think the company would listen if a group of people started a big enough campaign against that shit, because they are pretty easily swayed by what their Guests think (though not necessarily employees, because we are constantly reminded of how disposable we are), and we constantly have to discard shirts because of copyright infringement. It’s just a matter of someone making a big enough fuss.
and on a serious note
why would someone not take off my shirt
it really irks me and i’ve been thinking about this for like the past week
yes i am extremely insecure yes but
why would you categorize me by my nationality; that suggests that you are categorizing me by my ethnicity too. i am totes american/european-descended/white and i mean that’s fine for me whatever but categorizing me by my nationality/ethnicity/race suggests that you categorize and therefore exoticize and fetishize women (or people?) of other ethnicities/races. which is the skeevy part. not because it suggests duplicity; i don’t think there is exclusivity here and frankly i don’t want there to be. but because BY ALL MEANS do whatever you want with other people forever but if you’re racist by way of fetishization? get off muh diiiiick.
In order to create safe space for the rest of us, those of us that are not white cis women who are the mainstream definition of “beautiful” and acceptable fat, we have to hold each other accountable, utilize the spaces we share (tumblr is a space we share) and make them safe. So, with that spirit in mind, I’m puttin this list together because these are active and popular white “fat acceptance” or “fat” bloggers who make tumblr an unsafe space for the rest of us. Feel free to add more people and give us a brief description if you want about their bullshit.
This list goes out to all the fat poc, disabled, queer, death fat, trans*, femme, othered beautiful people. So we can help each other in solidarity.
Being on this list means:
They have to stop talking about fat politics until they address their privilege.
They actively participat/particpated in body shaming of someone else.
Have little to no concept of intersectional experiences and how their privilege allows them to shame those who are not on the same axis’ as them.
I do not want to see them on my dash unless there is critical commentary attached.
They actively participate in white supremacy, whether blatantly or covertly.
They make tumblr an unsafe space for anyone who doesn’t identify with their privileged perspective on body an fat politics.
Do not hold themselves accountable when called out.
I will unfollow and hold you accountable if you reblog them knowing they create unsafe environments for a lot of us or you perpetuate and
support their bullshit.
They refuse to do the necessary work in checking themselves, placing the burden on others to educate them.
If you would like me to edit this list to include someone and/or provide links or anecdotes or “reciepts” please message me. Some of these are included per the recommendation of others.
The List (Name and reason for inclusion. I’ll add links at a later time to said call outs when I have computer access or feel free to add them in yourself. I will not provide links to their blogs though. Their names below are their tumblr names but I will not directly link to them.
AmeliaButter: her participation in that PORK Magazine bullshit.
Red3blog: has spoken over a women of color in defense of white supremacy. Adds commentary to posts by woc in an attempt to recenter conversation on white fat issues.
Kylathegreat: Does not hold herself accountable when called out, covert white supremacist, shamed a poc on more than one occassion, is ableist and racist.
Queerfatfemme: Reblogged racist posts and posts by people knowing theyre white supremacist.
PussyBow: White supremacists who promotes racist regalia and doesn’t hold herself accountable when called out.
Chubby-Bunnies: Ableist and doesn’t hold herself accountable to call outs.
ETA: Per the comments and messages of others:
Chubby-cartwheels: Defended AmeliaButters bullshit/white supremacy
FemmesandFamily: White centric blog with little evaluation of privilege
Oh-hey-Brittany: Derailed conversation about race and ~wants racism off her dash and harmony~
Unfollowing people because damn, it is easy to find receipts of this stuff.
The only one I won’t unfollow at this point is Chubby-Bunnies because I think she cleared that up shortly after the ableist post happened. If anyone wants to give links to other ableism on that blog, show me and I will love you 5ever.
Also unfollowing Kyla obvs (she’s so pretty but I saw some of the ableism and I was just like… -___- ) but if anyone can provide me with links to her racism, that’d be great because Google was not my friend on that one. :(
Sad/not sad to be unfollowing pussybow because I think she blogged a lot of great pix, but not worth it if she’s racist and if she stands behind PORK’s racism.
PS Quelola, I love what you’re doing and thanks for this list.
Receipts for the others:
Chubby-cartwheels here (OP deleted from blog).
The others, idk because I never followed them.
The irony being that Tyrone is an Irish name, and the only reason so many Black men had the name was because, ding ding ding, their slave owners/rapists/etc. gave them the name. Hm. Imagine that.
Thank you fuck you can go on any bloody baby name and origin website and lookup Tyrone and boom Irish
how about u walkentomyanus u racist fuck
please drown kthnx
Same with names that end in “onne” which comes from the super Euro Siobhan.
Yanno history, as well as geography, is not White America’s strong suit.
His name is Chet. Now that’s a crackerish name if I ever heard. He should be a country music star.
An actress on Twitter writes: ”I didn’t make #PowerRangers said I was great but they already casted a black guy so they can’t cast a black girl too WHY is race an issue”
Power Rangers has had a lot of diverse casting, but since it was bought by Nickelodeon it seems to have regressed to “old school” diversity. For example, in 2010 they only allowed white actors to audition for the lead role and Racebending.com had to write a letter requesting they open up the casting call.
Ok I see what you’re trying to get at here but this post is sloppy as fuck
Yeah, okay, sorry about that. I was getting ready for work as I wrote this post and probably/definitely should’ve just saved it and waited but I was just so miffed; lemme try again.
I see/saw at the time that it’s super-uneven too and that I should’ve really put more into the why-trans-ethnic-is-invalid-as-an-identity and why-trans-ethnicity-is-appropriative-of-more-than-one-group.
And what I meant by “I don’t think that trans-ethnicity is even comparable to transgender-ness” is that I (and most people should) see transgender identities as valid and trans-ethnic identities as invalid and appropriative not only of whatever identity a trans-ethnic person is trying to claim, but also of transgender identities and especially of transgender terminology. Trans-ethnicity is doubly problematic in that way. That’s why I don’t see them as comparable, and I only say that and only attempt to distance the two because comparability is suggested by terminology. I did an especially bad job of explaining all of that.
Furthermore, I’ll support the gender with which anyone identifies; I know that I and most people place at least some stock in gender and consequently in the gender binary.
On a different note, I didn’t consider at the time but now am “duh” ing that of course the mere scale of masculinity and femininity is not THE defining factor of the validity of transgender identities; in fact, many transgender folks identify outside of the binary and/or have a problem with the binary (for example Kate Bornstein who I even fucking referenced fuck). I think that what I was trying to get at here is just that a gender binary exists and is strongly, even militantly enforced in this society. And from there, despite white privilege, no racial binary exists—how could one? And from there, because there is no scale on which to measure, for example, blackness (or really race in general) because there are so many examples of blackness and none of them fit on a scale, how can one identify as trans-ethnic without generalizing and stereotyping and therefore performing racism? And how does someone who thinks they are performing race/ethnicity tell when they are delving into racial stereotypes? I don’t believe that race can be performed, except in the form of white privilege. All other aspects—the aspects in which trans-ethnic folks put the most stock—appear to be cultural/societal and then can be considered racism/cultural appropriation.
I don’t understand why people call Jews cheap.
Like, have you MET an asian man?
More racism from the guy who made the racist comment comparing Nicki Minaj to a chimp.
Why am I not surprised, especially considering he deleted the Nicki Minaj post to cover his tracks?